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MelC
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Mint Xfce 20 slowing down to a stop.

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Hi, I have a Dell Latitude E5500 around 12 y/o. With Intel Core 2 Duo CPU P8400 @ 2.26 GHz - 2GB RAM

I have just (2 days ago) migrated from Xubuntu XFCE. I have moved to mint because I believe that it will be better supported over a longer period. I had issues with Xubuntu slowing down. But, I pinned this down to Bluetooth. This Laptop does not have a bluetooth card installed and as soon as I removed anything related to bluetooth the system speeded up.

I am having worse issues with Mint Xfce 20. Over a period of about 45 minutes it slows right down and then stops responding altogether and I have to force shutdown.
When I re-start it runs perfectly at the beginning.

I have searched this forum and the www, to no avail. I have tried some of the solutions including deactivating some items in 'start up' and also de-installing anything to do with bluetooch and removing 'residual config' file as recommended on one of the forum posts.

TIA

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Re: Mint Xfce 20 slowing down to a stop.

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Welcome to our forum!
Can you post the outcome of the commands:

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inxi -Fxxz
and

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free -m

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Re: Mint Xfce 20 slowing down to a stop.

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Thanks for responding.

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  Kernel: 5.4.0-39-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.3.0 
  Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 tk: Gtk 3.24.13 wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 
  Distro: Linux Mint 20 Ulyana base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal 
Machine:
  Type: Portable System: Dell product: Latitude E5500 v: N/A 
  serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 8 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Dell model: 0DW634 serial: <filter> BIOS: Dell v: A17 
  date: 09/27/2011 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 45.6 Wh condition: 45.6/57.7 Wh (79%) volts: 12.5/11.1 
  model: Samsung SDI DELL RM66193 serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo P8400 bits: 64 type: MCP 
  arch: Penryn rev: 6 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 9037 
  Speed: 797 MHz min/max: 800/2268 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 797 2: 797 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell 
  driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:2a42 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.8 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
  resolution: 1280x800~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express (CTG) 
  v: 2.1 Mesa 20.0.4 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:293e 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-39-generic 
Network:
  Device-1: Broadcom and subsidiaries NetXtreme BCM5756ME Gigabit Ethernet 
  PCI Express 
  vendor: Dell driver: tg3 v: 3.137 port: 1100 bus ID: 09:00.0 
  chip ID: 14e4:1674 
  IF: enp9s0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Intel WiFi Link 5100 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: 1100 
  bus ID: 0c:00.0 chip ID: 8086:4232 
  IF: wlp12s0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 198.11 GiB (42.5%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000LPCX-24C6HT0 
  size: 465.76 GiB speed: 3.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 19.81 GiB used: 6.66 GiB (33.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3 
  ID-2: /home size: 426.58 GiB used: 191.41 GiB (44.9%) fs: ext4 
  dev: /dev/sda9 
  ID-3: swap-1 size: 12.00 GiB used: 44.7 MiB (0.4%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 40.0 C mobo: N/A sodimm: 43.0 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 3485 
Info:
  Processes: 195 Uptime: 41m Memory: 1.90 GiB used: 1.21 GiB (63.7%) 
  Init: systemd v: 245 runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 9.3.0 alt: 9 Shell: bash 
  v: 5.0.16 running in: xfce4-terminal inxi: 3.0.38 

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              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:           1943        1224         141          87         577         480
Swap:         12286          43       12243
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Re: Mint Xfce 20 slowing down to a stop.

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From menu find and run task manager where you can see from RSS what each program consumes memory, browsers are the most hungry!
If you are not willing to upgrade to 4GB memory you will have problems.
What gives this command:

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cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness

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Re: Mint Xfce 20 slowing down to a stop.

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I have run task manager, I have stopped items and the system runs for about an hour now without issue. Then grinds to a halt. If i do an immediate re-start it runs good for a further hour.
cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
60
If you are not willing to upgrade to 4GB memory you will have problems.
The system requirements specifically state: "1GB RAM (2GB recommended for a comfortable usage)"

Task manager is not showing excessive RAM usage. I have not played about with swappiness yet. Maybe, I should try that.

Thanks for your input!

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Re: Mint Xfce 20 slowing down to a stop.

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You can add to:

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sudo xed /etc/sysctl.conf
at the end of the page
vm.swappiness = 90
Save and close and then run:

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sudo sysctl -p
To make the new adjustment without to reboot! What you do with this, is to give more active space to swap. You can revert by deleting it or change it to 60 the default value.

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Re: Mint Xfce 20 slowing down to a stop.

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asinoro wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:52 pm
You can add to:

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sudo xed /etc/sysctl.conf
Bad advice. Never launch a graphical application like Xed, with sudo! :shock:
https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.c ... -root.html

These are safe speed tweaks (and note my different advice for adjusting swappiness):
https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.c ... -mint.html
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Thank you so much. You have obviously put some effort in for the benefit of others.

But, after reading your web pages I thought, what is the point of installing a new release of a supposedly 'light' distro, then having to get the toolbox out to make it work.

I decided to go back to Xubuntu and within an hour I was up and running out of the box.

Thanks again guys!

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MelC wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:48 am
Thank you so much. You have obviously put some effort in for the benefit of others.

But, after reading your web pages I thought, what is the point of installing a new release of a supposedly 'light' distro, then having to get the toolbox out to make it work.

I decided to go back to Xubuntu and within an hour I was up and running out of the box.

Thanks again guys!
Well, most of those speed tweaks are also useful for Xubuntu.... :wink:
It's not as if Xubuntu is optimally tweaked for speed by default. Far from it.
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Re: Mint Xfce 20 slowing down to a stop.

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MelC wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:38 pm
I have run task manager, I have stopped items and the system runs for about an hour now without issue. Then grinds to a halt.
It is likely that you are running an application, website and/or browser-extension that is leaking memory; forces things out to swap after said time and feels like a lockup, on your hardware certainly. I.e., please don't bother with swappieness or alike: that's a tweak meant for regular, working situations, not for fixing a fundamental issue with using too much memory. 2G is of course very little for today's usage even on a desktop, so there's a small chance that you're simply opening e.g. too many tabs but if the situation is in fact as you describe it's likely a leak. Opening a terminal and running top in it will show you an e.g. busy application and free memory/swap in its header: you'd keep it open and glance it every now and then within that hour.

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Re: Mint Xfce 20 slowing down to a stop.

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Pjotr wrote:
Well, most of those speed tweaks are also useful for Xubuntu.... :wink:
It's not as if Xubuntu is optimally tweaked for speed by default. Far from it.
The only tweek that I have had to do so far, is removing any reference to 'Bluetooth'.

BUT, I have bookmarked your Blog. Which I will read more thoroughly later on.

Once again
Thanks & Regards
Mel.
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"Pjotr wrote", rather than "rene wrote", but oh well.

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