eiger3970 wrote: ⤴Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:48 pm
Yes, the monitors and panels were set up when using nouveau, and then I installed the Nvidia driver and the panel changed from the middle bottom monitor to the right bottom monitor.
linuxmint@linuxmint:~$ gsettings get org.cinnamon panels-enabled
['1:1:bottom']
Yes, I only have 1 panel on the right bottom monitor.
This should be on the middle bottom monitor.
Did you get an update for cinnamon-control-center? It looks to me like the problem with the monitor numbering may be contributing to the issue you are having.
and see if that gets the panel back on the correct monitor. I'm not sure if it will because of the "primary" monitor issue you mentioned, but let's see.
What a pleasant surprise to expect no solution, then searching for the panel in the right bottom monitor and there's no panel there. The panel is now in the preferred middle bottom monitor.
Machine specs:
Disk space: 184.8 GB
Graphics: GeForce GT 710/PCIe/SSE2
Kernel Linux 5.15.0-76-generic x86_64
Linux Mint 21.1 Vera 64-bit.
MATE 1.26.0
Memory: 15.5 GiB
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10105F CPU @ 3.7GHz x 8
Linux Mint has been freezing about 2 times per 24 hours at the moment.
Unsure what is causing it and it would be good to check what the cause is?
If someone could help me with a command to find the logs, the time was 202403071700.
Machine specs:
Disk space: 184.8 GB
Graphics: GeForce GT 710/PCIe/SSE2
Kernel Linux 5.15.0-76-generic x86_64
Linux Mint 21.1 Vera 64-bit.
MATE 1.26.0
Memory: 15.5 GiB
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10105F CPU @ 3.7GHz x 8
eiger3970 wrote: ⤴Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:05 am
Linux Mint has been freezing about 2 times per 24 hours at the moment.
Unsure what is causing it and it would be good to check what the cause is?
If someone could help me with a command to find the logs, the time was 202403071700.
The Cinnamon logs are in .xsession-errors and .xsession-errors.old which are hidden files in your home directory.
If you give it time, does the freeze resolve itself?
I too have had the same problem as elger3970. I don't have a solution yet, and was adding my notes here as another data point.
I've been on Linux Mint on my secondary computer on and off since 2010... In Jan 2020, I switched to LM full time. No problems ever. On 2/16/24 I chose to update to LM 21.3... on this occasion, I was unable to boot after the installation had finished. I had a timeshift backup, so I restored to my previous backup, about 24 hours old. I figured something I had done caused something odd to happen... I waited a week and figured I would try again on 2/28.
Since then, as elger3970 states, I have a hard crash about every 2 days. Just to be clear, I leave the computer always on, but when I come back to it, in the evening or first thing in the morning, it does not respond... screen is black... caps lock does not toggle the light. The motherboard has a visible diagnostic code, but according to that code, there is no error. I have tried to ping the machine from a different on on my network, and there is no ping response. Even when the computer is running, I notice that the mouse regularly stutters across my screen. Then later, the mouse will be normal. I've tried to catch active processes with the System Monitor while the mouse is stuttering, but the highest ranking process is generally Cinnamon.
This is all new behavior since the LM 21.3 install. I've been watching for updates to see if there just happened to be a bug that someone caught and fixed, but I'm completely up to date and I just had the crash yesterday as well. I was checking for answers when I found this post from elger3970.
I will be happy to supply logs or solutions... will have to wait for the next crash to see what I can find and report.
yjo-jo wrote: ⤴Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:56 pm
I too have had the same problem as elger3970. I don't have a solution yet, and was adding my notes here as another data point.
Welcome to the forum, yjo-jo.
Please create a new topic for your issue and make sure to provide your system information as per section 5 of How to get help.
These types of issue are usually hardware or install dependent and adding your observation does not help elger3970 solve their issue unless you have the exact same hardware they do and have the same exact programs installed as they do.
If you did an in-place upgrade from an earlier version of Linux Mint to LM21.3, please state that in your topic. That is a different situation than doing a fresh install of Linux Mint 21.3.
yjo-jo wrote: ⤴Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:56 pmI will be happy to supply logs or solutions... will have to wait for the next crash to see what I can find and report.
Please do that in your topic. It gets extremely confusing trying to help two different people with two different installs in the same topic
Yes, after time from 5-120 minutes, the freeze solves itself.
I seem to accelerate the solution by closing my browser Brave with 20-100 tabs open.
Then reopening the browser with tabs open is fine for hours.
I'm reluctant to reboot the machine, as I have another issue, possibly caused by me and is posted on another forum (VM router has no WAN after reboot, until ISP router is rebooted).
Machine specs:
Disk space: 184.8 GB
Graphics: GeForce GT 710/PCIe/SSE2
Kernel Linux 5.15.0-76-generic x86_64
Linux Mint 21.1 Vera 64-bit.
MATE 1.26.0
Memory: 15.5 GiB
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10105F CPU @ 3.7GHz x 8
eiger3970 wrote: ⤴Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:51 am
Yes, after time from 5-120 minutes, the freeze solves itself.
I seem to accelerate the solution by closing my browser Brave with 20-100 tabs open.
Then reopening the browser with tabs open is fine for hours.
So it appears to be a resource issue.
I do not use Brave so I don't know if there is something about it which might be more likely to have this type of issue. Sounds like it could be a memory leak.
3 monitors = 33 tabs average, easy.
They stay open until a job is complete.
Plus some always open tabs and some procrastination tabs.
This might reduce when I change my work/thinking flow with some exciting new FOSS I'm testing.
Anyway, thanks for the help, I think I'll just live with it until I increase the 32GB RAM one day.
The one thing that frustrates me is being unclear how to diagnose the data or find logs that cause the issue. I assume it is browser memory use or leak as suggested by SMG, but the data would be interesting.
Machine specs:
Disk space: 184.8 GB
Graphics: GeForce GT 710/PCIe/SSE2
Kernel Linux 5.15.0-76-generic x86_64
Linux Mint 21.1 Vera 64-bit.
MATE 1.26.0
Memory: 15.5 GiB
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10105F CPU @ 3.7GHz x 8
Ok, I've reduced tabs to 20, but the freeze still occurs.
I've fixed a network DHCP conflict which may have contributed to packet overload too.
Ideally, I would like a way to find logs on the freeze up.
It can happen for 20 seconds, 20 minutes or need a hard shutdown.
Machine specs:
Disk space: 184.8 GB
Graphics: GeForce GT 710/PCIe/SSE2
Kernel Linux 5.15.0-76-generic x86_64
Linux Mint 21.1 Vera 64-bit.
MATE 1.26.0
Memory: 15.5 GiB
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10105F CPU @ 3.7GHz x 8
eiger3970 wrote: ⤴Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:54 pmIdeally, I would like a way to find logs on the freeze up.
It can happen for 20 seconds, 20 minutes or need a hard shutdown.
It is rare for freeze situations to show in the log because they are usually resource interference issues that eventually resolve on their own. Freeze issues with browsers are even less likely to show in logs.
Have you checked the Brave forum to see if others are having such an issue and what they might have tried?
