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Thanks for the info xenopeek! :)
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xenopeek wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:18 pm LibreWolf is using the new DEB822 format. The giveaway is it creates a file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/librewolf.sources instead of librewolf.list. This is not yet supported in Software Sources. You can use the command inxi -r to show your entire APT repositories configuration, including those in DEB822 format.

DEB822 format support is planned for Linux Mint 22: https://trello.com/b/dBxsEOyF/linux-mint-22
Is there a way that I can fix it now so that it does show up in the software sources GUI?
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sylvain1_ wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:14 pm Is there a way that I can fix it now so that it does show up in the software sources GUI?
If you're asking for yourself you could convert the DEB822 style librewolf.sources file back to a one-line style librewolf.list file. Here's an example of a conversion the other way that provides the hints what to put where in the .list file: https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php ... e5#p679633

If you're asking not just for yourself, if you want to work on the mintsources code, the related issue is: https://github.com/linuxmint/mintsources/issues/236
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thank you.

I am afraid I do not know how to code and do not have a github account. i was just thinking about manually fixing the problem by editing some files. But maybe I will just leave it as it is and remember how it works.

Librewolf replace firefox as default initial browser when?
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sylvain1_ wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:32 pm Librewolf replace firefox as default initial browser when?
When you open the control panel, select Preferred Programs and replace the fox with the wolf.
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diabolicbg wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:50 pm
sylvain1_ wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:32 pm Librewolf replace firefox as default initial browser when?
When you open the control panel, select Preferred Programs and replace the fox with the wolf.
Yes, I mean on the linux mint installation iso by default.
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sylvain1_ wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:55 pm
diabolicbg wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:50 pm
sylvain1_ wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:32 pm Librewolf replace firefox as default initial browser when?
When you open the control panel, select Preferred Programs and replace the fox with the wolf.
Yes, I mean on the linux mint installation iso by default.
Ask Canonical, the creators of Ubuntu, about this. They have a distribution contract with Firefox, so probably - never.
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diabolicbg wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:01 pm Ask Canonical, the creators of Ubuntu, about this. They have a distribution contract with Firefox, so probably - never.
This is nonsense. Canonical does not create the Linux Mint ISO or packages Firefox for Linux Mint.

Linux Mint creates the ISO and packages Firefox.
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xenopeek wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:48 pm
diabolicbg wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:01 pm Ask Canonical, the creators of Ubuntu, about this. They have a distribution contract with Firefox, so probably - never.
This is nonsense. Canonical does not create the Linux Mint ISO or packages Firefox for Linux Mint.

Linux Mint creates the ISO and packages Firefox.
Well, sorry! I thought LM was getting the finished packaged Firefox from the Ubuntu repositories... :oops:
For LM .iso files it is logical and I know that for a fact. The team is working hard to create the new versions of LM, for which I thank them!
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Most of Mint's packages do come from upstream Ubuntu, but they dropped the use of a Firefox DEB package and went with their snap version instead. This prompted the Mint team to create their own DEB package for Firefox.

This may change in the future, as Mozilla recently announced they are going to start creating DEB packages once again. From what I read, talks are in progress with the Mint team about it.

As for the ISO, of course the Mint team decide which packages are installed and which programs are the default applications. I don't expect them to replace Firefox with Librewolf. There's nothing wrong with Firefox, it just doesn't suit everyone especially those looking for strong privacy protections by default. However, in turning on all these extra measures, some websites can stop working. If that were the default browser, there would be all sorts of complaints. I think it's a good compromise between a working browser/system and reasonable security/privacy.
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dave0808 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:36 am .
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As for the ISO, of course the Mint team decide which packages are installed and which programs are the default applications. I don't expect them to replace Firefox with Librewolf. There's nothing wrong with Firefox, it just doesn't suit everyone especially those looking for strong privacy protections by default. However, in turning on all these extra measures, some websites can stop working. If that were the default browser, there would be all sorts of complaints. I think it's a good compromise between a working browser/system and reasonable security/privacy.
+10 on the above.

I am old enough, and have been involved in enough to confidently say, no one has the anonymity that they believe they have. No browser truly will hide a user, no browser, period. Does anyone truly believe the browser on their cellphone hides them from prying eyes, regardless if those eyes belong to a government or to a business?

Most browsers can be configured with enough add-ons to render a site unusable, and that makes no sense.
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Lou77 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:55 am
dave0808 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:36 am .
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As for the ISO, of course the Mint team decide which packages are installed and which programs are the default applications. I don't expect them to replace Firefox with Librewolf. There's nothing wrong with Firefox, it just doesn't suit everyone especially those looking for strong privacy protections by default. However, in turning on all these extra measures, some websites can stop working. If that were the default browser, there would be all sorts of complaints. I think it's a good compromise between a working browser/system and reasonable security/privacy.
+10 on the above.

I am old enough, and have been involved in enough to confidently say, no one has the anonymity that they believe they have. No browser truly will hide a user, no browser, period. Does anyone truly believe the browser on their cellphone hides them from prying eyes, regardless if those eyes belong to a government or to a business?

Most browsers can be configured with enough add-ons to render a site unusable, and that makes no sense.
Thanks for your feedback, NSA agent Lou77. I will certainly not attempt to have any anonymity in the future. We want your job to be nice and easy :-)
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sylvain1_ wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:19 pm
Lou77 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:55 am
dave0808 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:36 am .
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As for the ISO, of course the Mint team decide which packages are installed and which programs are the default applications. I don't expect them to replace Firefox with Librewolf. There's nothing wrong with Firefox, it just doesn't suit everyone especially those looking for strong privacy protections by default. However, in turning on all these extra measures, some websites can stop working. If that were the default browser, there would be all sorts of complaints. I think it's a good compromise between a working browser/system and reasonable security/privacy.
+10 on the above.

I am old enough, and have been involved in enough to confidently say, no one has the anonymity that they believe they have. No browser truly will hide a user, no browser, period. Does anyone truly believe the browser on their cellphone hides them from prying eyes, regardless if those eyes belong to a government or to a business?

Most browsers can be configured with enough add-ons to render a site unusable, and that makes no sense.
Thanks for your feedback, NSA agent Lou77. I will certainly not attempt to have any anonymity in the future. We want your job to be nice and easy :-)
I am retired.
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From my first post in the thread, some people probably decided that I was writing to promote LibreWolf and almost sell it... Even xenopeek mocked me slightly.
Now I want to point out a serious flaw, despite its claims of security and privacy.
LibreWolf cannot work with KeepassXC. I have it installed on 4 computers - my permanent work computer and three laptops. On each I have installed KeepassXC and the KeepassXC-browser plugin. And on each one it refuses to find the database and connect to KeepassXC, despite the authors claim that it works.

Today I read the help files in detail for settings and troubleshooting and compared with the installed Firefox /it works with KeepassXC/.
In the plugin settings it says that when installed it creates a single org.keepassxc.keepassxc_browser.json file in the /.mozilla/native-messaging-hosts folder. With Firefox it is really like that.
However, LibreWolf is not in the Mozilla folder, but in its own folder - .LibreWolf and there are no native-messaging-hosts inside. I decided to create it and put the file in it. I did it, but there was no result.
Does anyone have any idea where the problem might be?

EDIT: I just finished the post and found the solution - I was put the folder in the wrong place.

SOLUTION: Create a /native-messaging-hosts/ folder yourself inside the .librewolf folder, copy the org.keepassxc.keepassxc_browser.json file from the Mozilla /native-messaging-hosts folder and paste it inside. Then restart LibreWolf and everything will work.
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diabolicbg wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:34 am Another confirmation of my statement. :wink:
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https://privacy.sexy/ has some scripts for linux to harden firefox browser. Does anyone have any opinion on those scripts?
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sylvain1_ wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:12 pm https://privacy.sexy/ has some scripts for linux to harden firefox browser. Does anyone have any opinion on those scripts?
The internet is overflowing with "specialists". I personally would not trust this "sexy confidential" site. :lol:
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