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Post by Husse » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:13 pm

Nothing to do with mintInstall but I got a warning message something like "An older version is available in a repository" I think - I use the localized swedish version of Celena.
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Post by ElementalTJ » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:17 pm

I can't get it to work.
First I installed it. I ran 'mintInstall' in teh terminal. Error.
Next I tried Alt+F2. Nothin'.
I re-installed it.
Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
Logged in.
I tried it again and got this message.

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elemental@elemental-desktop:~$ mintInstall
  warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintInstall/mintInstall.py", line 329, in <module>
    home = sys.argv[3]
IndexError: list index out of range
elemental@elemental-desktop:~$ sudo mintInstall
/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/apt/__init__.py:18: FutureWarning: apt API not stable yet
  warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintInstall/mintInstall.py", line 329, in <module>
    home = sys.argv[3]
IndexError: list index out of range
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Post by merlwiz79 » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:19 pm

Husse wrote:Nothing to do with mintInstall but I got a warning message something like "An older version is available in a repository" I think - I use the localized swedish version of Celena.
This is because it's not in the Celena repos. He wants us to test it for Daryna.
Here is a screenshot:
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I think it looks nice.
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Post by Husse » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:32 pm

This is because it's not in the Celena repos.
Well the message is
"An older version is available in a repository"
which to me indicates quite the opposite.
It also warned that this version may be insecure which I should have included in the first post
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Post by merlwiz79 » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:41 pm

Husse wrote:
This is because it's not in the Celena repos.
Well the message is
"An older version is available in a repository"
which to me indicates quite the opposite.
It also warned that this version may be insecure which I should have included in the first post
Well for Celena mintInstall is at 2.5.
So that is older than 2.6.
I don't remember anything about it not being secure.
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Post by cmost » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:54 pm

Errors with mintInstall 2.6. Installed the DEB file, and restarted the computer. Double-clicked the new mintInstall icon in the applications folder but nothing happend. Ran the command in a terminal (both as user and as root) and got the following:

cmost@cmost-linux1:~$ sudo mintInstall
/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/apt/__init__.py:18: FutureWarning: apt API not stable yet
warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintInstall/mintInstall.py", line 329, in <module>
home = sys.argv[3]
IndexError: list index out of range

I'm running Linux Mint 3.1 (Celena) fully up to date. Any ideas?

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Post by clem » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:54 pm

Husse: That's just a warning from gdebi (package installer) which tells you mintInstall is in the repo so you shouldn't install from the deb.... just ignore the warning.

ElementalTJ: mintInstall needs a .mint file to work. In the command line you can type "mintInstall yourfile.mint", or in Gnome you can double click a mint file... and to get mint files or run them directly with mintInstall go to the Software Portal: http://www.linuxmint.com/software there should be a mintInstall item in your administration menu which should bring you there.

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Post by clem » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:56 pm

Anyway, I can see the use of mintInstall is not trivial enough yet.. I'll work on that for the next release.

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Post by eagle » Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:24 pm

I tried this out by installing something from the software portal, and it worked fine, no problems. The interface looks great Clem, it has a more polished feel than before. Just one thing, when mintInstall finished installing my package, it notified me in a little popup window in the top left corner of my screen. Maybe it would be better to have it show up in the middle, in front of the main mintInstall window? Extremely minor, but it might improve the cohesive feeling of the program.

Again, thanks for all your work Clem!

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Post by clem » Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:32 pm

eagle: Thanks for the feedback. I registered a bug for this here https://bugs.launchpad.net/mintinstall/+bug/153432 , don't hesitate to register bugs yourself if you see things that are wrong.

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Post by clem » Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:41 pm

A blueprint was written and planned for the next version:

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mintin ... vial-usage

The purpose will be to make things easier and be able to launch some kind of mintInstall default welcome screen which will guide the user in getting mint files.

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Post by ElementalTJ » Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:43 pm

Hahaha. No wonders! Thanks for teh response. :? :D

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Post by Boo » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:08 pm

to make things simpler maybe what is needed is a mintInstall script that opens firefox to the software portal.

so if someone runs mintinstall from the command line ff opens to the software portal.
then a mintInstall.desktop file could be created to do the same thing and put in the menu and/or on the desktop.

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Post by alexander » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:15 pm

So just wondering, what are the advantages of mintinstall over Gdebi?
Or more to the point .mint over .deb?

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Post by clem » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:30 pm

Boo: Exactly.

Alexander: .deb is a package format, .mint is an installation protocol. Gdebi is a deb installer, mintInstall is a .mint installer.

Basically a mint file could install more than one deb, from different repositories (whether they're in your /etc/apt/sources.list or not), and even install other stuff.

Example of a mint file: "Multimedia Support".

This mint file could install java and flash from the Ubuntu repositories, then go and fetch w32codecs at a particular address (yes it can run stuff as well), eventually add another repository on the fly and install extra stuff from there..

The basic advantage of the mint protocol is that you see Software, not repositories, not packages... just software, and underneath it sets up the necessary repositories and gets the necessary packages for you.. then puts everything back the way it was.

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Post by clem » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:34 pm

.mint files pointing at 1 unique package and not specifying any repositories or extra installation steps are basically similar to debs. In this respect the software portal can be compared to getdeb.

Also, .mint files don't contain software though... only instructions to install software. So for instance a particular mint file could give you opera 9.20.... and without any changes.. 6 months later it could give you opera 9.23...

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Post by alexander » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:41 pm

thank you for the awesome response :)
mintinstall 2.6 looks very promising, I wouldn't be surprised if similar software started popping up on other distros.

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Post by blogger » Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:16 am

A great improvement, Clem.
It works quite well in CELENA, and the GUI looks perfect.
Cheers,
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Post by Husse » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:22 am

Clem
Have you considered failed mintInstalls
Just remembered that I see people now and then with odd repos, like this guy
http://www.linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6013
who has debian etch repos in an install a few hours old
A fallback mechanism that resets sources.list under "all" circumstances would be good
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Post by Kynan » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:43 am

alexander wrote:So just wondering, what are the advantages of mintinstall over Gdebi?
Or more to the point .mint over .deb?
I was wondering the exact same thing... thanks for asking now i know :-) i always assumed they were basically the same thing, this is good news for installing multiple .deb programs like open office 2.3

also something i haven't tested yet with the new version, but before i noticed that when installing programs with licences the installation would appear to be frozen or stopped without any indication. Out of curiosity i clicked details to discover you needed to manually type yes ect to the licences. Has this been fixed up or is it still the same?

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